Monday, August 27, 2012

A Love That Can Not Be Erased

Recently a misunderstanding between Kim Hyun Joong's fan and Ssangchu Fans had heated up . Ssangchu fans are the fans from We Got Married Show, where Kim Hyun Joong joined 4years ago as a make-believe husband to Hwang Bo and up to this date (even though they already left the show) these fans still believe that this couple are still dating. They still believe because of those culprits the couple has been showing to the public. Even though not intended to do so, these eagle-eye fans still noticed and has captured photos of those culprits such as couple shirts, rings, jacket, jerseys etc.
However Kim Hyun Joong's fans seems to not favoring the Ssangchu fans with their doings and somewhat took it seriously and even said painful words towards them. Hyun Joong's fans even blocked some twitter users who are known to be a Ssangchu shipper saying they are mental and crazy people.
On the other hand, Ssangchu fans kept their manners as they believe they are not doing anything bad.
Here's one of the accusation made by a Kim Hyun Joong fan.

From @khj_khj_khj 
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"We got married (WGM )" is a fictitious show that is plotted and planned in the situation with a script that probably has less details that's written out on the paper.

KHJ did his best to suit to the concept of that show as a professional, and in return, he received fascinating responses.

Both KHJ and HB denied several times the possible engagement of personal relationship between KHJ and HB including even for a very casual contact.

However, so-called "Ssangchu fans (SS)" put their basis of imaginary relationship on the fictitious hope that HB hides KHJ's and her relationship for KHJ's successful career.

SS uses some of the facts taken from KHJ's private life to intentionally manipulate as a proof of KHJ and HB's relationship.

Moreover, when KHJ does not act or behave in the way that's against their imagination, they do not hesitate to write and spread negative comments at portals, saying that they are disappointed by KHJ because he does not react in their way.

That's why Korean Henecians view SS as a potential anti-fans toward KHJ.

If SS enjoy the show only as a show, if they see KHJ only as a KHJ, a independent human being, Korean Henecians would not take such actions.

Korean Henecians have been keeping all types of proofs regarding following description with them.

Now, let me list some details what SS had done online, at many sites and boards that were opened to everyone.

- SS spread out the rumor that HB's parents did not allow their relationship because of KHJ's unsettling future career as a celebrity, an idol.

- When KHJ made comments for interviews or programs, SS took them and interpreted as a secretive message for HB, and expanded their fictitious interpretation as sexual messages, along with additional synthetic pictures and stories created for their imaginary needs which were nothing than sexual harassment to KHJ.

- KHJ was cast for Boys over Flowers (BF) and had to leave WGM to prepare his debut as an actor, but due to the popularity of KHJ and HB couple, the producer of WGM delayed KHJ's disengagement and took episodes for 3 month only in 2 weeks, which led KHJ to start BF in physically and mentally very stressful condition.

At this point, SS spread the rumor that KHJ would come back with HB for WGM, claiming that KHJ would not achieve as enormous popularity as he earned from WGM. SS did not want to see KHJ's success through BF obviously.

Thus, SS left negative comments about KHJ's acting at sites and boards that were related BF.

- SS reacted negatively when KHJ was involved with any female celebrity who worked with KHJ professionally.

For female actors whose role were KHJ's partner, SS kept leaving negative comments, which did not help KHJ's career as an actor, a team player in a drama.

- SS accuses KHJ as a guy who's abandoning HB for his own success in his career, while depicts HB as a submissive, mature and patient female who sacrifice for her lover's success.

- SS tries to fulfill themselves by replacing them to the HB's position, which is still fictitious, and SS forces KHJ to be a better boyfriend figure in many ways, if their expectation do not meet with what KHJ does, they bluntly speak out that they are disappointed and not satisfied.


As a fan of KHJ, Korean Henecians cannot stand any type of action that sabotages KHJ.

Korean henecians had to watch SS from the very beginning of WGM, witnessed them crossing the borders with their actions, and had to set regulations in response to their actions.

Fandom of KHJ used to be one of the generous community among celebrity fandoms in Korea, who shared most of their materials, however, they had to change such policy because of who exploit those materials for unreal fiction, and who cannot distinguish that fiction to the real world. 

And here are some responses coming from a Ssangchu Fan.

From @Khjlovesbuin (formerly known as @khjean14 )
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Hello to all "Ssangchu-Lettuce Joongboers" around the world.. I am writing my piece which is from my Heart.

I've watched BOF, at first I didn't enjoy it. I watched the second time around and it was LMH that caught my attention.! But my brother told me that he likes Ji hoo, so I searched KHJ and began to watched all his videos n youtube,until I came across WGM. I really enjoyed the show.well in fact I've watched it 10 times already. I enjoyed there "chemistry". this is where I see the "real " KHJ"-what you see is what you get. It's where I started to adore this Couple. I can't stop Loving them till then.

Now I became a"Fan" of Ssangchu Couple- Is it a Crime? Do I need to ask permission from anyone that I will start adoring this Couple.? No!! I don't have to My dears..Everyone is entitled to choose and adore whom they love and can make them Happy.

I posted an "edited" picture of CC from d News. which a Fan changed d head of Yu Mi to Buin is it a crime? Did KE prohibit not to edit any pictures from them?-No!! It was made for all SSangchu fans. For God sake!! KHJ is a public Figure!! You Korean fans doesn't own Him FYI!!! Don't you know that KHJ's overseas fans are always behind him why he is winning always in any Polls? We respect your fandoms Pls do respect us also. Be rational enough to be a fan. Again you "Do Not " own Kim Hyun Joong..!!!!

Am I a "threat" to you? that's so funny cos they are spreading to "Unfollow" me. Lol.. this is the thinking of "Immature, Insecured and Pathetic Fans.. Shame on you.. I never ask you people to follow me in the first place. its your own choice gosh!!! Grow up!!!

You big fandoms are suppose to be a good example to small fandoms, yet you are the ones that's very "Rude " and "mean" !!

KHJ is a very Humble person, Can't you copy his Humility? Or can you say it in a proper way if we did mistake? You are showing your own true colors and how Imperfect and Disrespectful you are.!!!
I am "khjean14" I changed my username to Khjlovesbuin. It's my choice. soo many Korean Fans Unfollowed me. did I die? No!! Im still Alive and Kicking!!. But I do unfoll0wed you also . You know who you are..!! I'm not scared of you. who do you think you are? Do you own the world? Are you feeding me? Lol No!!! well God Bless you instead.

I just do what I believe is true . If "God is with me. who can be against me? I just wanna sing- Inhale-Exhale-Smile-God Loves Me.!

Segyero to all "Joongboers around the World.!!

this is khjean14== este Khjlovesbuin now!!

From @iamjhosel
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Hi! Good morning! Thank you for replying. I'm sorry to hear that some Korean Ssangchu fans act in such a way. I don't know their side or how they do it there. But I thought Korean Ssangchu fans are actually underground and do not have much activities? Some even envy International fans because unlike them we can express our love to the the couple freely. Korean ssangchu fans from what I see are actually restrained because they know how extreme fans can get. But in your group's statement, it seems to me that you are generalizing all Ssangchu fans to be what you describe as antis. It seems to me that you are all spreading hate against Ssangchu fans and urging everyone to hate us too. That's what hurt me most as a ssangchu fan and KHj fan. If you have problems with 'some korean ssangchu fans', I'd rather you contact them personally rather than lashing it out to Ssangchus and issuing a statement making Ssangchu fans look like a crazy bunch of fans.

I'm also in awe in how Korean fans are spreading tweets to unfollow a Ssangchu fan, khjean14. Jean had done nothing wrong but share Kim Hyun Joong news and updates. She was even of one of those i know of who untirely do all her best to bring latest news and updtes on Kim Hyun Joong for international HJ fans. I don't think its a mature way of dealing things.

On HJ and HB being together or not. My dear, its our own personal choice to believe in them. Its been 4 years after WGM and our Ssangchu family is actually getting bigger and bigger around the world. I think you can't impose on us to stop believing in them. I hope you all respect our beliefs as well as we respect Kim Hyun Joong.

Again, I hope this issue would stop because HJ is a man of humility. I don't think he would want to see this happening amongst his fans. We are all nothing but fans. Have a good day!:)

 Im posting up my two cents to this post alledgely from Henecia Korea posted by . Link:

I don't see, in any way, that we,  Joongboers are an anti to Kim Hyun Joong nor we post threat to him or to anyone else.

First things first. Lets define terms clearly. 

According to Wikipedia, We Got Married (Hangul: 우리 결혼했어요) is a South Korean reality variety show, one segment of the Sunday Sunday Night program. First broadcast in 2008, the show pairs up Korean celebrities to show what life would be like if they were married. Each week, couples are assigned missions to complete, with candid interviews of the participants to reveal their thoughts and feelings.

Is it scripted? This has been an issue eversince, but PDnim in an interview before said although they give concepts/missions to the couples, its up to them to decide on how to carry it out. It has been denied by Kang Sora and Eun Jung too on several interviews. 

Ssangchu Couple: Kim Hyun Joong paired with Hwangbo Hye Jung 

came in the 9th episode of Season 1 as a replacement of Alex-Shinae couple who at that time took a break from WGM because of Alex' busy schedule preparing for his album.

Joongboers are fans supporting the couple, Kim Hyun JOONG and Hwang BO both individually and as a couple.

Now, on to the issue at hand.

Yes, we hope and pray and believe that they are together as a couple, BUT, we NEVER CLAIMED that they are indeed a couple. They NEVER said they are together nor they NEVER DENY that they are together. 

On not contacting each other: Its been 4 years since WGM. And yes, within 4 years they also said No, they havent contacted each other everytime they are asked on interviews. BUT. Recently, its Kim Hyun Joong himself who broke the denials. *In a chinese article, he said 

"as an artist, we are both busy so we can't contact OFTEN".

In the same article also, Kim Hyun Joong acknowledge himself that WGM paved his way to more success. Excerpt to that article: 

He recalls, “it’s because of ‘we got married’ that I gained my first popularity from. Internet is amazing, these Korean variety shows can actually gain support in china where language is a barrier.”

On HJ being 'physically and mentally stressed' on the start of BOF filming because he had to shoot WGM episodes rigorously: IT WAS HIS CHOICE.  After the Fake Farewell Episode, they were asked if they still wanted to continue on WGM or not. Both Hwangbo and Hyun Joong said yes. Hyun Joong could have said no like what the AnSol couple did but he did not. It was his choice. Besides DSP could have pulled him out if they see that filming WGM would be detrimental to him. 

On manipulating facts. We had never manipulated anything. Yes, we get bits and pieces of Hyun Joong's interviews and celebrate on it especially when it fits Joongbo  (for example, his ideal girl being someone who's simple, friendly and who he can drink with)  but we do not manipulate or twist it. We get happy and celebrate everytime we see them wearing the same rings, accessories and such. But that is all our observations. We never invent things. 

On photoshopped Joongbo pics. We edit pics just because they look good together. C'mon, should photoshopping be questioned too? Any artist I know of has every sorts of PSed pics with any other artists. Even fans do it too with their biases. Tell me a fan who in any point had never PSed their pic together with their biases. LOL.

On Joongbo fanfics to fulfill our sexual desires. Wow! Just wow. Fanfics are common in any fandom too. Its the fans way of expressing their writing skills and creativity. It so just happens that the inspiration used for the characters of the story are Hyun Joong and Hwangbo. Besides, HJ got many fanfics, with Goo Hye Sun, with Jung So Min, with Hyori, even with SS501 boys and Jaejoong! Are all that for sexual desires too? We have never desired to be with Hyun Joong. We are even in dismay to some Hyun Joong fans who would throw themselves to Hyun Joong in attempt to hug him or kiss him during his high five events. That my dear, is sexual harrassment. 

Joongboers are Kim Hyun Joong fans too. We support him in every way we can. We buy his albums, go to his fanmeets, watch his dramas, vote for him day and night on polls and even do charity works in his name. So you can never say we are an anti.

We, too, just like you Henecians, Triple S, MinJoong shippers and what-have-yous supports Kim Hyun Joong and wishes nothing but success on his career.

Yes, we are hoping that HB and HJ are really together but remember

at the end of the day, its Kim Hyun Joong who will decide who he choose to love. Not YOU. Not us either.

But as long as both HB and HJ are single and not married, we Joongboers will continue to believe and support them.

Can't we just move on peacefully on our respective fandoms and continue  to support him? 

I'm sure the man himself wont be happy to see his fans arguing.

Have a great weekend everyone! Segyero!<3 b="b">

*Link to the English trans of the chinese article:

Note: This blog is not ssangchu related at all.

This is the photo that is believed heated up the issue between the fandom

Now here's what I can say. For me there's nothing wrong about what these Ssangchu fans are doing. Me myself also is fond of their belief that Kim Hyun Joong and Hwang Bo are still together dating. There's nothing wrong with that really. 
What I can't understand is why Kim Hyun Joong fans took this seriously. I read some foul words coming from them and it's really not ethical. As a fan, we are all allowed to express our feelings towards our idol. We do not have hierarchy in this fanworld. We are all on the same level. It doesn't matter if you are a new fan or an old fan, what matters is we are supporting them in the way we can.
And yes, it doesn't matter how close you are with your idol or how much you've done to him because at the end of the day you are still a FAN, same with others. Truth hurts, yes we are ONLY a FAN. We can not set our boundaries around our idol. We do not own them. We do not posses them. I'm not siding the Ssangchu fans but I really think what these KHJ fans did are really way overboard. 
How come these Ssangchu fans can not express what they believe and yet you KHJ fans can? C'mon, this is a free world. If in someway Ssangchu fans offended KHJ fans then talk in a nice way. 
Kim Hyun Joong, Leader is for me one of the nicest person I've met. But what happened to his fans?
Yes you love him to bits. a love that can not be erased but I wish and I hope you open your minds with other fans. You are not the only people who loves Kim Hyun Joong. He's a nice person, it's unbelievable people around him would not come to love him the same way you are to him. 

Now I'm posting this because I believe that good people with good intentions not only to themselves but also to others will always prevail. 
So let me say this again.
"A true fan is never greedy of what their idols had and will have"

Have a nice day!

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